I've got a game at the FLGS in about an hour, so it seems like a good time to try out the new book. That said, while I've got a gazillion models, about half a gazillion aren't put together. I don't want to take on that chore until I have an idea what direction I want to take the list.
Scratch that. Turns out, the Horrors are in the dip. I had this vague, partially formed idea that I'd use the smaller, metal Horrors as Blue Horrors to fill out units. So in the dip they went!
Scratch that. Except the part about being rusty. Turns out, without Army Builder to help me kick around lists, I'm forced to resort to...
...creating a spreadsheet to do the work for me. Can't kick around with a pen and a blank piece of paper anymore.
So I just built a Chaos Space Marine Roster. Talk about lazy.
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2000 Pts - Chaos Space Marines Roster - (NICE AND BASIC!)
1 Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour, 142 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 31 & 93); Infantry (Character); Terminator Armour; Mark of Khorne; Power Sword; Power Fist; Bulky; Champion of Chaos; Counter-attack; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Independent Character; Rage; Veterans of the Long War; Warlord)
5 Khorne Berzerkers, 200 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 44 & 98); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Icon of Wrath; Bolt Pistol x3; Close Combat Weapon x5; Plasma Pistol x2; Counter-attack; Fearless; Furious Charge; Furious Charge; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Khorne; Rage; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Berzerker Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 44 & 98); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Counter-attack; Fearless; Furious Charge; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Khorne; Rage; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Land Raider, 245 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 55 & 103); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Daemonic Possession; Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter; Twin-linked Lascannons (each side); Assault Vehicle)
9 Thousand Sons, 265 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 43 & 98); Infantry; Aura of Dark Glory; Inferno Bolts; Power Armour; Boltgun w/ Inferno Bolts x9; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Tzeentch; Slow and Purposeful; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Sorcerer ((C:CSM, pp. 43 & 98); Infantry (Character); Aura of Dark Glory; Inferno Bolts; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol w/ Inferno Bolts; Force Sword; Champion of Chaos; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Tzeentch; Psyker (Mastery Level 1); Slow and Purposeful; Veterans of the Long War; Biomancy; Pyromancy; Telepathy; Tzeentch)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 230 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Heavy Bolter; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 230 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Heavy Bolter; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 245 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Plasma gun; Lascannon; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 210 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Plasma gun; Lascannon; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aegis Defence Lines, 100 pts (Battlefield Debris (Defence Lines))
1 Gun Emplacement (Quad-gun)
1 Chaos Vindicator, 130 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 55 & 103); Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armour; Demolisher Cannon)
1 Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour, 142 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 31 & 93); Infantry (Character); Terminator Armour; Mark of Khorne; Power Sword; Power Fist; Bulky; Champion of Chaos; Counter-attack; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Independent Character; Rage; Veterans of the Long War; Warlord)
5 Khorne Berzerkers, 200 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 44 & 98); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Icon of Wrath; Bolt Pistol x3; Close Combat Weapon x5; Plasma Pistol x2; Counter-attack; Fearless; Furious Charge; Furious Charge; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Khorne; Rage; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Berzerker Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 44 & 98); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Counter-attack; Fearless; Furious Charge; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Khorne; Rage; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Land Raider, 245 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 55 & 103); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Daemonic Possession; Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter; Twin-linked Lascannons (each side); Assault Vehicle)
9 Thousand Sons, 265 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 43 & 98); Infantry; Aura of Dark Glory; Inferno Bolts; Power Armour; Boltgun w/ Inferno Bolts x9; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Tzeentch; Slow and Purposeful; Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Sorcerer ((C:CSM, pp. 43 & 98); Infantry (Character); Aura of Dark Glory; Inferno Bolts; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol w/ Inferno Bolts; Force Sword; Champion of Chaos; Fearless; Hatred (Space Marines); Mark of Tzeentch; Psyker (Mastery Level 1); Slow and Purposeful; Veterans of the Long War; Biomancy; Pyromancy; Telepathy; Tzeentch)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 230 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Heavy Bolter; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 230 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Meltagun; Heavy Bolter; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 245 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Plasma gun; Lascannon; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Chaos Rhino ((C:CSM, pp. 54 & 99); Vehicle (Transport); 10 model capacity; Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Combi-Boltgun; Repair)
9 Chaos Space Marines, 210 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry; Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol x9; Boltgun x7; Plasma gun; Lascannon; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aspiring Champion ((C:CSM, pp. 37 & 95); Infantry (Character); Frag Grenades; Krak Grenades; Power Armour; Bolt Pistol; Boltgun; Power Fist x1; Champion of Chaos; Hatred (Space Marines); Veterans of the Long War)
1 Aegis Defence Lines, 100 pts (Battlefield Debris (Defence Lines))
1 Gun Emplacement (Quad-gun)
1 Chaos Vindicator, 130 pts ((C:CSM, pp. 55 & 103); Vehicle (Tank); Searchlight; Smoke Launchers; Extra Armour; Demolisher Cannon)
I'm currently spending more time making a custom Excel spreadsheet than studying the army book. Hopefully that will help me get a handle on the book. There are just so many options it's hard to wrap my head around it.
ReplyDeleteLight years above the last book in that respect.
I'm just glad to see Brent talking about daemons again.
ReplyDeleteStand out unit combo's in this codex are.
1. HOT, Lvl 3 Psyker, Exalted Conjurations Team up with a unit of horrors.
2. HOS with Lesser, Greater, Stead & Greater Beguilement teamed up with fiends or seekers.
3. GUO with Lvl 2 Psyker (Bomancy) & Greater gifts.
4. HOT, Disc, Lesser and Greater Gift teamed up with screamers.
5. Seeker Cavalcade.
Ohh and SoulGrinder with MON. I won't ever use one myself but stand that baby in cover and watch your enemy weep...
ReplyDeletePowerfists on your CSM Champs are now pretty pointless, as they will be called\will call out a challenge and probably be killed before Init 1. If you're going to bother with Veterans of the Long War on them, give them the CC weapon. Trim a squad out and get a Daemon prince of Tzeentch or Nugle (Tzeentch rerolls 1's, and Nugle will get a jink of 3+ with shrouded) and the Black Mace (since its MC AP 2 overules the normal AP of the weapon...the only problem is no sweeping with nurgle)
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